5:10 PM ET, May 6, 2024
Witnesses describe how bills were paid at the Trump Organization.Here’s what happened in court and why it matters
From CNN’s Elise Hammond
Jeffrey McConney (right) testified Monday. He was a longtime administrator of the Trump Organization.
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In the hush money trial against the former president, prosecutors on Monday called two witnesses who worked in the Trump Organization’s accounting department. Deborah Tarasoff, Administrator, and Accounts Payable Supervisor.
McConney asked jurors to review a documentary trail showing how executives organized and repaid funds that Michael Cohen sent to Stormy Daniels’ lawyer. This is important because at the heart of the falsification of business records case is a payment to Cohen that was listed as a deposit.
Tarasoff detailed how the checks were disbursed within the organization and when the payments required President Trump’s approval.
Here’s what happened in court today.
Jeffrey McConney
- Mr. McConney testified that he discussed the need to “pay back” Mr. Cohen with Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s former chief financial officer. McConney then showed jurors 12 checks, each for $35,000, paid to Cohen in 2017. Cohen sent invoices for these checks and requested that the payments be listed as part of a “retention agreement.” As earlier testimony at the trial revealed, Cohen had no actual retainers.
- McConney also told jurors why Cohen was paid a total of $420,000 and how each check was deducted first from Trump’s revocable trust and then from his personal account. explained.
- The jury also reviewed business records related to payments to Mr. Cohen related to some of the 34 business record falsification charges against Mr. Trump. The record displays several rows and columns organized to record payments.
- On cross-examination, Trump’s attorney Emile Bove questioned McConney about his knowledge of Trump’s role in these payments. “Hasn’t President Trump asked you to do anything like what you’ve described?” Bove asked. “He didn’t do that,” McConney testified. He said he was asked to do this job by Weisselberg. McConney also said he did not know whether Cohen did any legal work for Trump in 2017.
Deborah Tarasoff, who works in the Trump Organization’s accounting department, will be questioned on Monday.
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Deborah Tarasoff
- As an accounts payable supervisor, Tarasoff said he receives approved invoices, enters them into the system, cuts checks and gets them signed. Tarasoff testified that Trump or his sons are required to approve invoices over $10,000 and that Trump was the only person to approve checks from his personal account, including during his presidency. did.
- Tarasoff said Trump would sign the checks by hand. She said they were signed in black Sharpie. Tarasoff said that even if Weisselberg approved the check, that doesn’t mean President Trump necessarily signed the check. He “was sending it back with ‘invalid’ written on it,” she noted.
- Before Trump became president, Tarasov said, referring to Trump’s longtime aide, “I cut the check and gave it to Lorna (Graf) with a spare, and Lorna brought it to Trump and signed it. “I was given it,” he testified. Her bill and check were stapled together and the check was placed on top of her bill, she said. If Trump becomes president, Tarasoff said he will mail a check to the White House.
- The jury was shown a slip with the word “retainer” written in the description section that Tarasoff said he got from the bill. Tarasoff also confirmed that each $35,000 check signed by Trump was sent to Cohen.
- On cross-examination, she admitted that she was not present during the conversation between Trump and Weisselberg about the payments. She also has worked with President Trump’s children Eric, Don Jr. and Ivanka Trump over the years, she said. Tarasoff still works for the Trump Organization. That means she’s still working for Eric Trump, who was on the court today.
What’s next: Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass estimates it will still take about two weeks, starting tomorrow, to file charges. He stresses that this is a very rough estimate. The defense will also have the opportunity to call witnesses if they wish.
Judge Juan Melchán ruled that President Trump had again violated the gag order over his comments about the jury.
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